Yesterday, I took a moment to assess Rook’s (border collie) problem obstacles:

Agility Obstacle Training Needs
1. Table with sit/down (slow to get on the table, slow/refuses to sit/down in trials)
2. Weave pole entries (performance itself also mediocre)
3. Seesaw (tends to fly off, doesn’t drive to bottom)
4. Aframe/Dogwalk down contact (currently strides over, needs running contact)
5. Tire (often goes under when it’s the very first obstacle)

Hurricane Ike has come and gone but left behind considerable damage throughout Houston. Our friend Debby cleared her training field and this past Saturday we drove up to get some agility work done. I started Rook with a 16″ table, with a clicker and high value treats (pieces of deli meat cut into cubes). She ambled onto the table, I clicked and threw a treat onto the table. I released her from the table with “okay” and waited for her to head back onto the table (without any command, verbal or physical), which she did, so another click/treat for her. After several of these, she opted to wander off and started sniffing her way around the field. Dangit!I let her, while I talked it out with Sarah and Debby. Debby thought she was bored/stressed. Sarah thought she was a crossover dog (not having grown up with clicker training) and was stressed because of previous clicker failures.

Of note, I’ve been working on Ali Roukas’ running contact method and I can’t get her past the introduction to the board, because she loses interest. She quickly progressed from looking at the board, to nosing the board, to pawing the board, to one foot on the board, to adding a second foot on the board but never with any manic enthusiasm. Let me explain, when Sammie the rottie has a clicker session, she is INTENSE and dynamic with offering behaviors, quickly figures things out, tries the same thing if unrewarded except harder/faster/higher/etc. Sammie has fire in her eyes. Rook thinks well (I can see her figuring it out) but at some point she just loses interest, and she’s never enthusiastic about it. I tried to teach Rook to get on a skateboard, touch board, stand on her hind legs, all with similar results (mediocre). Yesterday I started Susan Garrett’s Crate Games with her and I couldn’t get her to sit in the crate and TAKE A TREAT (she IGNORED the treat and was waiting for a release word), which helped confirm my theory as to what the heck is wrong with Rook: she does not find treats reinforcing!

I don’t think it’s me. I’ve done clicker work with all of our dogs (except Sarah’s new rottie pup) and the only dog struggling with it is Rook. My new pup Raphael is doing BRILLIANTLY with clicker work. Back to the table training. Debby, going with her line of thought that Rook was bored, suggested doing a few reps with click/treat and then tugging with her while she was on the table and stopping if she came off. So I did that, and the light/fire came on in her eyes, she tugged until she came off the table, at which point I stopped tugging. She IMMEDIATELY jumped back onto the table, which earned her more tugging. At that point, I started short sends to table with click/tug, and one rep where I did click/treat but then immediately tugged (Debby’s great suggestion–>using Premack principle to build food drive with tug). Debby had the right answer but the wrong reason: tugging is not de-stressing or breaking up the boredom of clicker training or the fatigue of “thinking”; tugging is in fact a HIGHLY DESIRED REINFORCER for Rook while food is NOT.

I feel relieved because I think that we’ve solved the mystery, but it has been PLAGUING me literally for MONTHS while I’ve been retraining her with almost ZERO progress (I was putting her away and taking out my “fun dogs” to train). Like an idiot, I kept trying to reward her with junk she doesn’t care about. Meanwhile, her agility handling keeps getting better because we never use food out there, only tug toys!

To sum up, Rook is not stupid or bored or ruined (from lack of previous clicker training), and I am not a poor clicker trainer (well, you know what I mean). Rather, I was not using an appropriate reinforcer. The strategy now is clear and two-pronged: 1) build food drive by pairing it with the high value reinforcer (tugging), but while we work on that 2) adjust training to allow for toy use as the reinforcer. Sure it’s ideal to have balance food and toy drive (food is VERY convenient), but she HAS toy drive and she sure isn’t getting any younger, so let’s get to work!

 
The worst of the storm has passed, and we’re all doing fine. We don’t have any power and we’re having a hard time occupying our 3 year old and the six dogs are a bit anxious. But all and all, we’re doing okay. listen

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Hurricane Ike is bearing down on Houston (the picture above is from today at 8pm), and Team Fernandezlopez had to spend much of the day breaking down our agility field :-( Here you see all our agility equipment stuffed in our garage (can you believe we have so many weave poles!!!). We’ll have to keep one of our cars outside!!!

Below that you see our pathetically empty field. Complete with Aframe and Dogwalk laid down flat. We don’t live close enough to the coast to worry about storm surge, but we very possibly may have to deal with power being out, and possibly being stuck at our house due to flooding.

We’ll let you know how we fair!

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So – after all my new comprehension of operant conditioning, my devouring of books and videos, and my clumsy shaping attempts, we randomly discovered that Karen Pryor’s Clicker Expo (a multi-day expo of lecture type sessions – plus some hands on ‘labs’ with dogs) is coming to Texas. I could not be more excited since this removes the costly expense of flying and will be a hugely exciting look into the science and technical skills of operant conditioning and shaping. I’m actually EXCITED that this isn’t an agility workshop or obedience workshop – because I want to learn and practice the underlying principles at this point and then I will be able to apply them on my own.

Each time slot has a choice of 3 different sessions, plus 2 ‘labs’ – so you have to make some tough choices on where you spend your time. Gitta will be the dog I bring to the hands on ‘labs’. Here is what I’ve decided to attend (lengthy – but I wanted to capture it somewhere – feel free to skim):

FRIDAY
Reaching the Animal Mind: Opening Plenary Session
Karen Pryor, Aaron Clayton
Clicker training is a lot more than a method or a training approach; it’s the leading edge of a new technology. Clicker training is a replicable, transferable, and reliable system by which many people can learn to do something that previously had been difficult, chancy, and requiring immeasurable individual skill. A technology does not limit you to one use: to dogs but not horses; to gymnasts but not pilots; to pets but not police dogs. A technology can have as many applications as there are people to think them up. At ClickerExpo you’ll meet some of the most brilliant innovators in the field, the people who are taking this technology further every day. Your host Karen Pryor, trainer, teacher, and scientist, is one of those people. With highlights from her new book, Reaching the Animal Mind, Karen will share with you her latest perspectives on clicker training as a communication system, one that all of us, from beginners to experts, can use, not just to communicate with animals, but to understand when animals communicate back.

A Moment of Science: Clicker training 101 – Part 1
Kathy Sdao
Are you new to clicker training? Or are you using it, but a bit confused by the terminology and the reasons behind what we do? Here’s a crash course, in two parts, on clicker training, learning theory, and the laws governing how learning really works. You’ll learn what you need to know about the underlying science to get out of the gate fast.Kathy Sdao, psychologist, marine mammal trainer, and dog professional, is a gifted teacher who will help you understand why the principles work and what all the terms really mean. Start your ClickerExpo experience on Friday with these two Sessions, and you will have the foundation and vocabulary to help you understand, enjoy, and benefit from the rest of the program.

Shaping!: Build the Behavior You Want
Helix Fairweather, Joan Orr
Shaping behavior by reinforcing small steps toward a future goal is one of the core processes of clicker training, and a vital skill for the trainer. It is often hard for trainers to make the shift from luring, prompting, or leading the animal through the desired movements, to letting the animal discover what “works” on its own, but the benefits to both trainer and animal are enormous. Shaping builds the trainer’s observational and mechanical skills, and is the foundation of teaching complex behaviors, making training fun for the animal and strengthening the relationship between animal and trainer.We’ll review the foundations of solid shaping technique, including how to begin a shaping session, how to build behavior in increments, how and why to employ a high rate of reinforcement, and how to appropriately raise criteria. We’ll also cover open-ended/creative shaping versus goal-oriented shaping so that you can employ both intentionally and appropriately.Trainers who have never shaped before, or have done limited shaping, or trainers who are frustrated with their shaping results will all benefit from this Session. We’ll use live shaping demonstrations with dogs from the audience to illustrate important shaping concepts and techniques.

Out of the Gate: Practice for New Handlers and Dogs
Hands-on With Dog
Emma Parsons
This Learning Lab is a hands-on follow-up to the Moment of Science Session (Part 1). Now that your head is buzzing with what clicker training is all about, come and practice! This Lab is a solid introduction for those new to clicker training, and serves as a refresher for those uncertain about their own basic practices. Participants will be involved in exercises that develop both mechanical and observational skills. These include mechanics of clicking, timing of clicking, treat delivery, and the beginning of shaping. You’ll begin to sharpen your timing and observational skills and then put it all together to teach new behaviors!

Saturday
What a Cue Can Do: Developing Cueing Skills
Kathy Sdao
Effective cueing is essential for achieving reliable responses. The process of adding cues in clicker training is different than in other training methods. Getting behaviors on cue is often the most difficult concept for new clicker trainers to understand, because the process is somewhat counterintuitive.This Learning Session is about choosing and maintaining effective cues for operant behaviors, and is also about understanding how cues are integral to more advanced training applications. Kathy Sdao will show you how to use cues to gain control of operant behaviors. You’ll learn what a cue is—and isn’t—and how cues differ from commands. We’ll discuss how to choose cues to maximize clarity, how to transfer a known cue to a novel cue, and how cues function in behavior chains. You’ll also learn how cues can be transferred and combined to produce complex and flexible behaviors, and how to avoid the “good enough” syndrome.

What a Cue Can Do in Action Part 1: Cue Comprehension
Hands-on With Dog
Kathy Sdao
Cue comprehension is the foundation of fluent, reliable, real-life behavior. With a solid mastery of cueing, you’ll be able to minimize confusion in your trainees by choosing cues with more forethought—making the most of every training opportunity. In this Learning Lab, you’ll lean two different ways to add a cue to a behavior, how to extinguish off-cue behavior, and how to choose “animal-friendly” cues (ones that are easily perceived and understood). In-class exercises include adding a cue by fading a lure, and adding a cue by using temporal conditioning. We’ll use the science of classical conditioning to improve cue training, and contrast familiar methods of adding cues with a more clicker-based method.

Shaping!: In Action
Hands-on With Dog
Helix Fairweather, Joan Orr
This Learning Lab is designed for those new to shaping or uncertain about whether they’re on the right track with their shaping skills, including people who have trained their dogs primarily with lure/reward techniques but want to learn how to transition from luring to shaping. In this Lab you’ll learn how to shape, raise criteria to ensure success, use non-linear criteria, and shape using a high rate of reinforcement. We’ll work on improving your observational skills and your ability to deliver a high rate of reinforcement. If needed, we’ll explore exercises for “loosening up” dogs that are used to waiting politely for instruction/guidance from their handler rather than offering behaviors. Training exercises include: shaping a movement (spin or back up); shaping an interaction with an object (chair, ball, toy); shaping a target touch; and using the target to get started with shaping another behavior (leg weave, heeling, etc.). Depending on the skill level and progress of participating dog and handler teams, we may be able to demonstrate and discuss “next level” issues: How do you shape a longer duration behavior? How do you improve the shaped behavior after it is on cue? How do you teach the dog to work facing away from you, going away from you, or staying fifty feet off? Can you shape behavior in a noisy, distracting environment?

A Panel Discussion
Faculty
Saturday afternoon at ClickerExpo always finds us engaged in a Panel Discussion. Sound boring? Actually, it’s just the opposite! The questions are interesting, the answers are pithy, and the panelists are FUNNY. Put seven top trainers on one stage and you really see how many points of view there are on questions ranging from “What skills make a top trainer?” to “How do you personally work through spots where you seem to plateau?” One attendee described the Panel Discussion as “Better than the Tonight Show—and you don’t have to stay up late.” Attendees are invited to submit topics and questions in writing to moderator Aaron Clayton by Saturday morning. Want to learn more? You can listen to a past panel discussion and read the following panel discussion-related articles: Sharing the Wealth; Getting to the Core.

SUNDAY
Dog Toys?: Get Serious!
— Sponsored by KONG
The original KONG has long been used by pet owners for entertaining their pooches, but, increasingly, the training community has been finding broader roles for KONGs and other toys. Join KONG’s Behavior and Training Specialist Mark Hines to learn about some of these varied uses, including how to use dog toys to help solve canine behavioral challenges. Learn how dog toys are used by police and military K-9 trainers to motivate their K-9 partners. Mark will also cover helping you choose a safe dog toy that’s the right size.

The Mind of the Trainer: Live Training Demonstrations by Expo Faculty Narrated by Karen Pryor
Faculty
There’s nothing like seeing a skilled shaper in action to sharpen your own shaping skills. In this Session, members of the ClickerExpo Faculty will take turns free-shaping behavior with YOUR dogs, while Karen Pryor explains what’s going on. This is bound to be fascinating and fun. You’ll see great timing and high rates of reinforcement. You’ll see how quickly—or slowly—the seasoned shaper raises criteria. You’ll see shaping shortcuts and ingenious problem-solving on the fly. You’ll see flubs and accidental results, too; nobody’s perfect, and half the fun of shaping is the surprises along the way.

To Use or Not to Use: Complicated Training Tools
Ken Ramirez
The e-lists on clicker training are riddled with long discussions of particular operant methods that may or may not belong in your toolkit. Examples include the keep-going signal, the no reward marker (NRM), differential reinforcement of incompatible or other behavior (DRI/DRO), the least reinforcing stimulus (LRS), jackpots, timeouts, and a myriad of others. Many of these tools are useful only in very specific circumstances such as highly advanced stimulus control projects. Casual or incorrect use can be confusing to the learner or, worse, punishing. Ken Ramirez, highly experienced in the teaching of clicker trainers, takes away the mystery and confusion.

Using What You’ve Learned: How to Develop Your Own Training Plan
Ken Ramirez
Okay, you are at ClickerExpo. You learn a million exciting things and take reams of notes. Then you get home. Now what? Ken Ramirez, one of the country’s most respected marine mammal trainers, has personally trained a huge cadre of other operant trainers. Ken has put a lot of thought into the issue of using what you’ve learned, and in this Session he shares his insights with you. You’ll learn how to assess where you stand, and, perhaps more importantly, where your learners are right now. Are your dogs (or dolphins or horses or children or students) clicker-wise and ready for any challenge? Or do you need to build some foundation skills before trying everything you brought home? Instead of running to the “experts,” hoping someone can give you a recipe for fixing problem X or situation Y, find out how to develop your own training plan. Instead of thinking about each behavior as an obstacle, and each misbehaving organism as a problem, find out how to build alternate skills. This is a Session in how to recognize where you are, recognize where your learners are, and think through what to do next.

Plenary Session: Back to the Future! Conference Review and a Glimpse of What Lies Ahead
Karen Pryor, Aaron Clayton
ClickerExpo has fantastic breadth and depth. But that means you can’t be everywhere you’d like to be and see everything you’d like to see. In our final Session, we bring you highlights from the weekend, as well as experiences that faculty members want to share. We’ll take some time to summarize the three days and look at what comes next. Join us for this satisfying wrap-up.

 

Well – after a uncertain start I actually did succeed in teaching a spin using pure shaping! Here is a short clip of Gitta’s success!

It also shows off her tail quite nicely ;-) Now I just need to shape it to be a bit tighter and a quicker. But I’m over the training hump.

 

So a combination of a comment from a reader (detailing a similar experience with a lured down being picked up quite quickly while a lured spin required the lure in some form for much MUCH longer) and a 2am puppy potty break led me to a Eureka moment with regards to luring.

Most of the books I’ve been reading lately point out that with Luring, you are showing the dog what you want it to do. It really takes a jump in thought for the dog to realize that you want them to do it ON THEIR OWN. In addition, the dog is simply thinking about the food, not about what their body is doing. With Shaping, the dog is making conscience decisions trying to figure out how to get the treat. It’s like when you give someone a ride home who is telling you which turns to make. You get to their house and they say “So, do you think you can find your way back here to pick me up tomorrow?”, you say “Crap, I totally forgot to pay attention”. Now, that’s all fine and good, but why then did Luring work so well for the sit in the back of the crate in crate games (or reader Pacco’s down), but fails so miserably for our spin?

Here’s my theory. With both the down and the sit at the back of the crate, the behavior you want is a static position. You might lure the dog into position, and they may not pay attention to how they got there (they were lured), but once they get the treat and the glazed look leaves their eyes – they are in the position you are trying to teach. They are also getting the treat in that position. So even if they aren’t paying attention during the luring, they may start to pick up on the common ending position.

Now look at a spin. The action they are taking during the luring (when they aren’t paying attention) IS the action you are trying to teach! In this case, when that glazed look leaves their eyes and they finally get the treat, they are simply right back where they started.

I believe this is the key difference between how well Luring works for some behaviors and how hard it is to fade the lure for others. Based on this, if I could get better at shaping, I would endeavour to use shaping for any behavior that is an action; and would consider luring for any behavior that is assuming a position.

Which leads us to part 2 of this blog post. Turns out I might not be as horrible a shaper as I thought. I just need to learn to have faith in the process and faith in my training. After giving my dog a head twitch yesterday, I decided to try one more session on shaping a spin. To my delight, she immediately started her head twitch in a more vigorous way than I had left it, often ending up with her body following her head a bit! After a few clicks of this, she actually turned so much that after getting her treat, she just finished the turn rather than turning back the same way to me. JACKPOT. While she never intentionally completed the spin, it did happen at least twice on it’s own. I’m very interested to see what today brings. It will greatly boost MY own confidence if I am able to successfully shape a spin.

 

Some background on what I’ve been working on the past few days, and then a question for my readers (maybe I don’t have enough for a lively discussion – but we’ll find out!).

Yesterday I decided to begin the “Crate Games” work from Susan Garrett’s dvd. Gitta is a boisterous pup that bumbles out of the crate when it’s opened, and occationally balks at going back in. She’s still so young and so ‘puppyish’ that you wonder if she’s really ready to pay attention and learn yet! As instructed I worked through the first 3 stages all in one session. It’s times like these when reinforcement training is like magic. In stage one, you simply open the crate, and shove your hand in – treating high and to the back to pull them into a sit away from the door. I did this with roast beef, over and over – maybe 15 reps – which was probably more than I needed. Suddenly, when I opened the door, Gitta actually jumped backwards paradoxically moving away from the treat in anticipation of getting it. Wow. It’s amazing to watch any dog learn in this way, but to see it in such a young puppy is truly amazing. I moved to step 2 and left the door open a moment before treating, or taking a step away. When she didn’t get the treat right away, she actually backed up further trying to find that magic position in the back of the crate that got her such rewards.

It was a truly amazing thing to watch, and Esteban was also dutifully impressed. The other thing that happened was that I stopped forcing her into the crate when she was unwilling to go back in. I simply held her by the door, preventing her from going anywhere else, and waited for her to decide she’d rather be in her crate, which she did – even when she really wanted to play but I had to leave the house.

I felt so proud of myself. Which brings us to today.

I’ve been struggling with teaching a spin and decided to give free shaping a try today. A spin is rediculously easy to lure, but as soon as you try to reduce your hand movement – it falls apart. After crate games and my earlier success at teaching Raph to go to a bed, I really wanted to try and teach it with shaping. For some reason, I just can’t shape the spin. Perhaps the movements are so minute and my timing is not good enough. But it was slow going, and at the moment, all I’ve done is give my poor dog a head twitch! When I grab the clicker, she jerks her head to the side like a fly just landed on her back. Am I on the right track? Maybe – but I can’t seem to make any progress on this one particular skill.

Which leads me to my philosophical question for the group. When I thought about it, the Stage 1 of Crate Games is just a lure, plain and simple. You place the reward high and to the back and pretty soon, that’s where the dog is going. So why is it that after only 15 reps, my dog is jumping back in the crate as soon as I open the door (no lure required), but I can spin my dog over and over with a lure and she just isn’t going to suddenly start spinning on her own? What is the big difference?

These aren’t rhetorical questions folks! I’m really starting to get better at clicker training/reinforcement training/shaping, but it seems there are some shaping plans I can execute well with no luring (go to your bed and lie down) and some I just can’t (spin, roll-over).

 

Notice the quotes around ‘Obedience’. Hot on the heels of our Schutzhund class was Gitta’s first day in Dogwood’s “Intro to Comp” class. This class does not focus on specific obedience skills (or very many control behaviors) – but is more on the side of focus, attention, and drive. We took this class years (and years!) ago with Sammie and it was one of our big influences as trainers. We have since become quite good friends with Debby (the owner of Dogwood) and Judy (the instructor for Intro to Comp). It was fun being back in this class, and it is a fabulous class with a fabulous instructor.

Wonder of wonders – there were actually TWO other rottie pups there. Brothers who were 11 weeks old (and had no tails ;-) So three young rottie pups in one class!

I thought Gitta did very well considering it’s an hour long class (I periodically put her in her crate while the instructor was talking), though she really goes after my hands, cuffs, shoes, her leash, etc. Sigh. THAT’S something that’s going to take some work (and some growing up!!)!

 

Before Gitta had an puppy class, obedience class, or agility class, she had a Schutzhund class. Though I got Gitta specifically for agility (looking for those high drives and athletic builds), watching Johanna and Anu in Finland piqued my interest in Schutzhund. Though I planned only on doing agility, when everyone commented on what a nice ‘bite’ Gitta had, I felt an obligation to at least not ruin it – even if I don’t train it. I thought that the beginning drive work of Schutzhund could only help build her drive in agility.

Years ago – Esteban had been interested in Schutzhund and had looked around for a club but couldn’t find anything very local. However, in surfing the web these days, he came upon the Good Shepherd Schutzhund Club which meets on Satudays about an hour away. The founder and training director is a guy named Joe Tackett, who is credited largely with getting Schutzhund going in the US. We got a babysitter, packed up Sammie and Gitta, and headed out this past Saturday (Aug 30th).

Watching a class sometimes breaks the mental block I have that says I couldn’t possible do this thing. Watching a class shows you that regular people are doing – it just take the time to train. I don’t mind taking time to train and going to class, it’s just Schutzhund was so foreign – I couldn’t even imagine how to go about it. We watched the class work on the Obedience exercises in pairs (one dog on a long down stay) and then the puppies and new dogs headed far away to practice sits, downs, tiny heels, and attention. This part was nothing new – and in fact we learned later that the guy who helps with the puppies had trained at Dogwood (where we train obedience)! But it was nice to jump on in with Gitta.

The really exciting part was the protection training. For the new dogs, this consisted solely of drive building by swinging a toy, leather rag, or burlap bag just out of reach of the dog, but occationally letting them get ahold of it. This is where it became clear that Gitta is bred for this kind of thing. She showed not an ounce of fear or hesitation, even when the toy landed by her or on her when she wasn’t paying attention. She launched herself at the toy, pounced on the bag, and didn’t seem inclined to let go. Esteban thought she did amazing, and she received many compliments.

I’m already looking forward to another class this Saturday! (Johanna and Anu are going to be so excited ;-)

 

Well – Gitta’s registration has come through on the Finnish Registration site. You can now CLICK HERE to view her pedigree. Now I just need to register her with the AKC and we’ll be fully legit.

By the way, you can always click on her name on the right hand side of our blog (the “Who is Team Fernandezlopez” section), to see a consolidated list of photo albums and videos.

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